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Post by voidspy on Feb 12, 2017 20:52:11 GMT
I'm confused on how such a small Youtuber would be able to create/obtain such a high-quality recreation. It's even more accurate than the one in Kate Plays Christine, and that was a full budget movie. I'm interested to see what NationSquid has to say about it. The weirdest part of it all, he's completely ignored all of the requests asking about it's origin.. it doesn't make sense, if it were fake I feel like someone would already have a source from where it came from by now, but it's all a big secret NationSquid hasn't peeped even a word about.
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Post by cookie on Feb 12, 2017 23:14:36 GMT
Hi folks, I was invited over here by a youtube user named Gamertag Woody, but I am not seeing any posts by him. Also confused by voidspy's following comment: "if you read the comments posted here 2 users called "Mr. Park Kim & Mustafa" post detailed info regarding how the footage was filmed" Again, I don't see these users or comments here. Am I missing something? Regarding my thoughts on the video, I am leaning more towards real. I have spent years researching Christine Chubbuck, I am detail oriented. The lighting, the black and white dress, the desk, screen, and logo all match up in my opinion. There are various accounts of people claiming to have seen this footage many years ago, in various places. Their accounts of it also match up. I will try to locate the post that claimed the video was a video of the video being played. When I find it, I'll link you. All reported it to look fake, no blood, fast head slam, falls to her left off of the chair, out of view. A few mentioned audio about it being a sick joke. If that were true, I don't expect that the station would share that part of the footage with other stations, if they intended to sell the video to other Networks etc. Let's entertain that thought for a moment....it would have made sense for them to cut that out, and it wouldn't be far fetched to presume the thought occurred to sell it, but the family obtained an injunction preventing that from happening. With that thought in mind, I ventured onto google. I came across this article: www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/a-shocking-suicide-a-long-lost-friend-and-a-movie-trailerHere is an interesting bit from the article featuring Rob Smith (Smitty): On the day Chubbuck killed herself, Smitty got a call. “I went down and I saw the tape. I’ll never forget—our program director was dubbing version after version. And we’re going, ‘What are you doing?’ And he’s saying, ‘Everybody’s gonna want this, CBS, NBC, they’re all gonna want it.’ We’re like, ‘You can’t show this shit! This is horrible.’ So the family got involved, and the owner put a clamp on it.” Smitty shook his head. “I saw it once and I didn’t need to see it anymore. It didn’t look real.” “It just looked fake, like a bad joke or something?” Shilowich asked. Smitty nodded. “That was something that Chris would do. I can see her doing a fake suicide more than anybody.” With all of that said, I am one of the few who seem to feel this video does match up with the Sally Quinn description. If this is indeed a re-enactment, it is well done. Look at the lighting in the picture with the other broadcasters. I previously read posts regarding there being a mug on top of the letter C on the desk, no....that is the lighting. It matches up with the other real photographs. If you pause this video JUST before she falls off the chair, you can see that she is wearing a black and white patterned dress. I was hoping we could attach images here....but seems that is not the case.
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Post by voidspy on Feb 13, 2017 1:03:29 GMT
cookie , hey it's me, sorry for not specifying. yeah, those users called Mr. Park Kim & Mustafa posted on the news article released on some website. here is the link to see their comments www.adweek.com/tvspy/long-lost-video-of-florida-anchors-on-air-suicide-posted-to-youtube/185702#comment-3149115629they claim the footage static cannot be replicated as it's exactly how it should be for the era and for 1/2" reel film, and that seems like a good piece of conclusive evidence to prove it could possibly be real footage. also as for you adding in pictures, just upload it to imgur.com and copy and paste the URL here. this is a new forum so it's not really perfect just yet.
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Post by cookie on Feb 13, 2017 1:26:02 GMT
Thanks for the tip, and for clarifying that for me voidspy.
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Post by cookie on Feb 13, 2017 2:07:36 GMT
Here are some screenshots worth inspecting closely, as well as some shots of Andrea Kirby and George Peter Ryan, for anyone who is interested. imgur.com/a/mtfwT
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Post by voidspy on Feb 13, 2017 4:01:44 GMT
Here are some screenshots worth inspecting closely, as well as some shots of Andrea Kirby and George Peter Ryan, for anyone who is interested. imgur.com/a/mtfwTwow that detective work on the screenshots... seems spot on, never thought to go frame by frame since i thought it would be too blurry to see anything. however as for the face "contorting" if i were to guess it seems like a rush of blood coming from her nose. after reading Sally Quinns story, it does seem exactly as she described, the hair, the mouth.. doubt it was blood as I had guessed earlier as the dark spot on her face disappears in the next frame. wow... this has got to be real. well done. I think someone asking Sally Quinn if this is the video could prove enough to confirm or not whether this is the footage she remember seeing. Do you think it's possible a better quality version exists out there and this is just a low quality version that was somehow found? Cause if Sally saw her face contort I'd bet she saw a way better version.
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Post by dycaite on Feb 13, 2017 4:22:33 GMT
kyuss is now saying that NationSquid stole it from him, which is completely untrue. He posted on the Freaky 5 video before mirroring the Chubbuck part on his channel: Pretty shameful. i.imgur.com/LTRp4Z1.pngEdit: He also seems to have shadowbanned 2 of my accounts, when I tried to call him out on it.
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Post by dycaite on Feb 13, 2017 4:40:22 GMT
He just disabled the comments, hah.
Now he's put the pinned comment in the video description. Everybody thumbs down this lying piece of shit.
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Post by cookie on Feb 13, 2017 4:44:22 GMT
Here are some screenshots worth inspecting closely, as well as some shots of Andrea Kirby and George Peter Ryan, for anyone who is interested. imgur.com/a/mtfwTwow that detective work on the screenshots... seems spot on, never thought to go frame by frame since i thought it would be too blurry to see anything. however as for the face "contorting" if i were to guess it seems like a rush of blood coming from her nose. after reading Sally Quinns story, it does seem exactly as she described, the hair, the mouth.. doubt it was blood as I had guessed earlier as the dark spot on her face disappears in the next frame. wow... this has got to be real. well done. I think someone asking Sally Quinn if this is the video could prove enough to confirm or not whether this is the footage she remember seeing. Do you think it's possible a better quality version exists out there and this is just a low quality version that was somehow found? Cause if Sally saw her face contort I'd bet she saw a way better version. Thanks, not super confident....but I do appreciate details!
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Post by cookie on Feb 13, 2017 4:48:19 GMT
He just disabled the comments, hah. Now he's put the pinned comment in the video description. Everybody thumbs down this lying piece of shit. Why not wait to see what he actually produces? His account of having his first upload flagged seems possible. It is third party content, and would need editing to be accepted. Otherwise, it needs to be educational. No harm waiting it out to see what comes of it. Besides, it's not like we have received ANY feedback or answers from NS, have we?
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Post by dycaite on Feb 13, 2017 4:49:13 GMT
He just disabled the comments, hah. Now he's put the pinned comment in the video description. Everybody thumbs down this lying piece of shit. Why not wait to see what he actually produces? His account of having his first upload flagged seems possible. It is third party content, and would need editing to be accepted. Otherwise, it needs to be educational. No harm waiting it out to see what comes of it. Besides, it's not like we have received ANY feedback or answers from NS, have we? No, he is saying that the video in NationSquid's video was stolen from him. Even though he commented on the NS video days ago, and didn't say anything about it. He's a bullshitter and everybody should thumbs down his video.
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Post by cookie on Feb 13, 2017 5:01:37 GMT
Why not wait to see what he actually produces? His account of having his first upload flagged seems possible. It is third party content, and would need editing to be accepted. Otherwise, it needs to be educational. No harm waiting it out to see what comes of it. Besides, it's not like we have received ANY feedback or answers from NS, have we? No, he is saying that the video in NationSquid's video was stolen from him. Even though he commented on the NS video days ago, and didn't say anything about it. He's a bullshitter and everybody should thumbs down his video. Yes, I understood that much. What I am saying is that what is the point in giving a thumbs down? He is promising to upload an in-depth explanation...so let him. I am certainly curious as to why he would comment on the NS video, but will not discount him over the upload date just yet. If he has not monetized the video what is the harm? If NS wanted to take ownership of it, certainly they would have by now. Instead we have crickets......
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Post by dycaite on Feb 13, 2017 5:04:35 GMT
No, he is saying that the video in NationSquid's video was stolen from him. Even though he commented on the NS video days ago, and didn't say anything about it. He's a bullshitter and everybody should thumbs down his video. Yes, I understood that much. What I am saying is that what is the point in giving a thumbs down? He is promising to upload an in-depth explanation...so let him. I am certainly curious as to why he would comment on the NS video, but will not discount him over the upload date just yet. If he has not monetized the video what is the harm? If NS wanted to take ownership of it, certainly they would have by now. Instead we have crickets...... To teach him a lesson that stealing credit is not OK. And fine, let him upload whatever bullshit excuse he wants. Fact of the matter is, if it were stolen, he wouldn't have nonchalantly posted on the original video and not say anything about it. He's trying to capitalise on the fact that that bogus news article linked to his video, nothing more.
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Post by dycaite on Feb 13, 2017 5:13:09 GMT
He's removed the video. Good.
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Post by upset on Feb 13, 2017 5:18:46 GMT
Here are some screenshots worth inspecting closely, as well as some shots of Andrea Kirby and George Peter Ryan, for anyone who is interested. imgur.com/a/mtfwTHi, everyone. For any of you folks who are also on the FAD forums, I go by Upset over there also. This is great work, Cookie! Barring a truly extraordinary explanation to the contrary, I am now convinced this is the real deal. Comparison of your still frames with the "known" photo of the actual set sealed it for me. Simply too close, too many points you can look at and see the exact same thing; this is way beyond "attention to detail" in a recreation. You can see it particularly in the placement and shape of the NEWSWATCH letters, which are obviously "homemade." Look at the slight differences in the two Ws in the Chubbuck video, and then look at these letters in the other photo, and you will see they differ from each other in exactly the same way. So... unless this is a recreation that was shot using the original set, I'm convinced. Again: Great work!
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